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November 19th, 2008

Blog Preferences

Thanks to my friend Jenny at Geek in Heels, I have recently learned something about blog feeds.

I use Google Reader to catch up on my blog reading.  Some blogs really frustrate me by having only a tiny bit of the post listed in the feed, and then you have to click through to see the whole thing.  This mostly annoys me if the blog is generally very image-heavy, and I don’t even know if I want to read the post until I see the images.

For some reason, I thought I could fix this.  Jenny told me, though, that people actually set their feeds up this way, in order to drive traffic to their site.  Now I’m wondering if I should be doing this?  How else would you get to see my twitter status (which I know you would be riveted by) or my latest flickr image (you know you wanna see my dog and her new toy!)?

What do you guys think?  Are partial feeds annoying to you?  How do you read your blogs?  Do you come directly to my website, or do you have my feed through Google Reader, Bloglines, or something similar?  Please tell me.  My curiosity is killing me (although I have no idea why).

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32 Responses to “Blog Preferences”

1
AmericanFamily Says:

I know that a partial feed is annoying, but I do it anyway. I made that choice because some asshole did some damage in my real life based on the slice of me they know from my blog. By using a partial feed, I can see the IP address of everyone reading. It isn’t a lot to go on, but if I have a real problem, I will have a starting place to trace anyone who might be reading.

I read in an RSS reader, so I know it is annoying, but it is that or I don’t blog. So partial posts for me.

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Julie Says:

So, here’s my $0.02. This is going to sound totally hypocritical, but hear me out. I have my blog set to display only a partial RSS feed… but I, too, find it annoying. For me, it’s not to DRIVE traffic to my blog for traffic purposes (regarding getting hit numbers up and because I want people there) because frankly, the number of visitors/month means nothing to me. I have no advertising on my blog, I don’t sell on etsy so I’m not trying to get people to go there, etc. For me, it’s simple. I’m a Ph.D. student, and in between writing about my life as a newlywed, posting recipes, etc., I write about being a female Ph.D. and the trials and tribulations I face in the lab. Because I acknowledge that someday, someone that knows me at my university MIGHT somehow stumble across my blog and put 2 and 2 together and guess it is me, I try not to say anything negative, but I’d like to have the heads up that someone who might know me is reading. So I do it so that I can scope out the location of my readers, and check out if I’m getting an increase in hits from the local area, and especially if I’m getting any from my own university IP address. Were I not concerned about this issue, I would definitely just go ahead and list the whole content of my blog in the RSS feed.

As far as people reading your Twitter status, they can subscribe if they are interested (I’m a subscriber)… and anyone who comments frequently clicks over on a semi-regular basis anyway (though of course I am sure lots of people read and do not click over).

To sum, I agree that partial feeds are annoying… but if you would switch to a partial feed for your own reasons, I would certainly be willing to click over from Google Reader, considering that I ask the same of my own subscribers.

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Caitlin Says:

I can understand why the above commenter would do a partial feed, but as a blog reader using Google Reader, I don’t add/keep blogs that have a partial feed (maybe, if its a family member). For the most part I stick to that rule, cause I hate breaking out of the main screen to see what the person is really talking about, and don’t like cluttering my desktop with extra windows or tabs.

But that’s just me… I followed you here from Weddingbee and really do love your blog. I hope you’ll stick with a full feed!

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Stinkerpants Says:

Hey AmFam! I am still totally disturbed by the fact that people have threatened you. Seriously. Do you use Google Analytics to track the IPs? Or something else?

Julie–I totally get where you’re coming from, 100%. I guess I’d never thought of it that way–partially because I didn’t know you could track IPs. This is definitely food for thought.

Thanks for sharing, you guys!

I have had some stalkers in the past. Maybe it would be good to know who is here. If I could figure out the whole IP thing, of course.

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Scribbles Says:

Hi, my NZ$0.02 (so worth even less in US$),

I stumbled across your blog in the recommendations that Google Reader provides (based on what other blogs sit in your Reader). I know that when I’m looking through these blogs, I pretty much don’t bother to investigate the ones that have partial feeds. I would still click through if you had partial feeds but I’m not sure whether you’d attract a whole lot of new readers or not…

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Stinkerpants Says:

@Caitlin –I totally agree with you. Every once in awhile I click over to someone’s blog and am shocked by how pretty their blog is! I wish Google reader could somehow display their theme inside my reader, because I totally hear you on not wanting to click out of the main screen.

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Stinkerpants Says:

@Scribbles — Wow, that’s totally cool! I am so glad you found me! Thanks!

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MsPurple24 Says:

Partial feeds annoy the junk out of me. Whether or not I click over completely depends on the blog. If it hasn’t already caught my interest, I don’t click over. But for YOUR blog… I would, because I always read the whole thing. So… I guess I’m split. As a random reader, I hate them. As a Stinkerpants fan, it won’t bother me if you do. :)

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Amy Says:

Ditto everything that Caitlin said above. My one exception (that I keep in my reader) is the “blogger formerly known as Mrs. Gingerbread” :)

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Julie Says:

Sara-
I use Sitemeter.com (the free version) to track the stats for my blog. It will only track the last 100 hits, so if you generate a lot of traffic, you have to check frequently if you’re actually looking to keep up with where they are coming from (as opposed to just number of hits, etc.). If you pay the $7 (I think)/month, it will save the stats on more. So for me, because I want to keep tabs on if, perhaps, the head of my lab stumbles across my blog, I check in periodically. It’s really easy to set up and install — you just add a tag into the code of your blog.

As far as seeing the look of webpages INSIDE of Google Reader, you can do that, too. If you use Firefox, you can download the BetterGReader extension (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6424). This adds on a “Preview” button, which will, IN the Google Reader frame, take you to a view of the webpage itself, so you don’t have to leave your Google Reader. It is PERFECT for the abbreviated RSS feeds. If you use Firefox, you should totally check it out. It also solves your problem of sometimes wanting to see the blog webpage. If you do try it out and have any questions about it, feel free to ask!

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Lise Says:

Because so many sites use partial feeds, I’ve gotten in the habit of clicking through my Google Reader at warp speed and opening any interesting links in a new (Firefox) tab. Partial feeds don’t bother me at all.

P.S. Your blog is awesome, so yours always makes the new-tab cut! :)

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Julie Says:

That first paragraph should be that I check in periodically during the day, not just periodically in general. Because I’ll go through more than 100 hits/day. And to clarify, Sitemeter will retain for a full year the number of hits that you receive and track them for each month, but it is just the IP information (location of visit, time of visit, referring URL, etc) that is stored for the last 100 visitors.

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Zoe Says:

I really hate partial feeds and it really deters me from going to the site sometimes, but I’ve been a fan of your blog since Weddingbee, so I’d definitely go read the full entry on your site. Even now though, I still click onto your blog itself b/c your design is cute…and sometimes to leave a comment. Like now. XD

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Stinkerpants Says:

Man, you guys ROCK!

Thanks so much for all of that info, Julie! I really appreciate it!! I am THRILLED about BetterGReader. THRILLED.

Thanks Zoe! It’s nice to know you’d come visit anyway. I think I’ll stick with the full feed, and just add a little note if if I change my layout or anything. :)

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thatdisneygirl Says:

I hate it when blogs switch to partial feeds. Once partial feeds come up in my Google Reader, I unsubscribe from the blog. It’s a bummer, but I don’t want to feel like I’ve been “tricked” into visiting someone’s blog!

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thatdisneygirl Says:

Oh, except I also made an exception for the former Mrs. Gingerbread. :)

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CaitStClair Says:

I use Google Reader and I’m not a fan of the partial feed either. I typically won’t subscribe to blogs that use it, but there are of course exceptions. :-)

18
Laura Says:

I’m a fan from the Weddingbee days too. =) I very much dislike partial feeds. Often, there’s not even enough text to tell if it’s worth it to click through. Also, if I’m checking my Google Reader at work, I don’t want to log hits to blogs I’m reading.

Julie - Thanks for posting about Better GReader! I’m downloading it right now! What a great solution to seeing the cute layouts of your favorite blogs.

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kelly Says:

There are very few blogs I read that have partial feeds. I think they are so annoying. There is one blog I read that seems like she is able to pick where to make the break. So at least what shows up in GR is a complete thought followed by “more after the jump” (kind of like weddingbee) and I am able to decide if I want to read more about.

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StefK Says:

I hate partial feeds b/c I typically try to do (the bulk) of my blog reading (from google reader) on my iPhone. It keeps me company when I have to wait in line, want to take a quick break from work without increasing my internet time (haha), etc. I only subscribe to one partial feed blog (Yeah, yeah…ex-Mrs. GB) but I wouldn’t HATE having more. I like to comment, so I often do a click over to the blogs to comment once a day or so…I’ve considered making mine partial feed, but b/c it annoys me so much I won’t do it (yet) :) I agree that it sucks to not see the prettiness of the blogs though.

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Geek in Heels Says:

Aww thanks for the linkage!

I’ve set my RSS to display all because that’s how I like others.

I literally have 1000+ feeds to read every day and believe it or not, I hardly ever skim…I try to read each and every one!

Except for the partial ones, that is.

With the partials, I only click through if what is displayed seems interesting.

I have no intention of earning money on my blog. I don’t care much about hits. I have no need to hide anything, because I have a separate “private posts” section.

I just like to write, and I love meeting new friends through blogging!

So if displaying the entire post in my RSS feed is the most user-friendly way for my readers, so be it!

P.S. - I was also going to suggest the BetterGReader extension but Julie beat me to it!

P.P.S. - Problogger posted a debate on this issue last year and it’s very interesting! The comments make some good points too. http://www.problogger.net/archives/2007/09/12/full-or-partial-rss-feeds-the-great-feed-debate/

22
Hayley Says:

I hate partial feeds and unsubscribe from blogs that have them. If a post is interesting and I want to comment on it, I’ll visit the site but I don’t have time to do it for every post. Plus if I’m reading on my iphone, it’s a nightmare to have to keep loading up web pages on 3G.

23
Ruby Slippers Says:

Blogs that are set to partial feed REALLY annoy me. A couple of my favourite photographers have this, and it bugs the heck out of me. That said, I have no idea how to set this option for myself, so goodness knows what mine is set at on my own blog! Anyway, I wouldn’t do it unless you really do need to track your readers. Unless the blog is brilliant perfection, I’ll unsubscribe if it has no feed in my Google Reader.

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jessica@budgetsavvybride Says:

I have to say I am not a fan of partial feeds. I read all of my subscriptions through my Google Reader (which I love) and I truly get annoyed with blogs that do partial feeds. The point of the Reader is to not have to navigate to every different blog on your list… I understand the issues some of these people have had and the reason they’ve chosen to do it (such as stalkers- creepy!). I still subscribe to a number of them and only click to go directly to their blog if those first few lines intrigues me. It’s a tough call… do what you feel is best for you!

25
Erika Says:

I followed your blog here from Weddingbee. I hated when weddingbee started using partial feed on their website so I only read it in google reader where they don’t do that. Just wanted to my add my 2 cents. I think your designs are super cute!

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Sherry Says:

Partial feeds are very annoying. Furthermore, they tend to drive my traffic away since I often end up deleting them from my subscriptions. If I do decide to continue my subscription, I tend to gloss over the partial feeds on my reader instead of clicking over to the site to read the entire post. Only in very rare instances when the title or abstract prompts me to read more/comment do I ever click over to the site.

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KLM Says:

I read using Google Reader. Partial feeds bug me, but it’s mostly because I’m online all day for work, and my work blogs get first priority, and I have enough tabs open for those already. For personal and fun blogs I read, if I can’t read the whole post right then, I often don’t read it at all — or, alternatively, I’ll wait till there are five or 10 posts built up and then click to the blog and read them all at once. It doesn’t make me stop reading a blog, but it changes the way I read, for sure.

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N Says:

Oops, I didn’t know that partial feeds were so hated. I will reconsider using them. I do it so that I can get a sense of where traffic is coming from, but if people are not reading because they hate partial feeds it sort of defeats the purpose. Thank you all of you sweethearts who are making an exception for me :)

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KLM Says:

Wowwww, I downloaded that Firefox plugin, and it’s totally making my life better as I write this. Thank you!

30
Tara Says:

DON’T DO IT!!! Everyone else has covered the topic well, but just had to add my voice to the “I don’t follow partial-feed blogs” chorus. Like others, I have one exception for Mrs GB. And only ’cause she’s a friend. So of course you’d make my cut too. But otherwise, I have unsubscribed from blogs that I actually *adored* because of the feed issue. Life’s too busy and I have too many feeds to keep up with … it’s just not worth it.

(And yes, I totally see the problem with the fact that feeds don’t translate to link-clicks for monetized blogs…. But I do click over if I want to comment, or to save the post for later reading, or whatever. So good content will always win out.)

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kaymarie (upturned.barbie) Says:

I’m a lurker coming out to give my two cents. Partial feeds really annoy me, especially if I notice that there are ads on a person site. Obviously, that’s not the case on your site. I think I would make an exception for you but for the most part I don’t read sites that do partial feeds. Julie up there is another exception. As someone else said above, frequent commenters will still visit the site.

32
violarulz Says:

please, oh please, oh please DON’T DO IT! I always think it’s an evil way to drive up traffic to their site because they want ad revenue or something. I read all most blogs in google reader and those that aren’t reader-friendly, don’t generally stay on my to-read list for very long

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